Comments on: SAP: Deciding about SAP-BPC (nee Outlooksoft) http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/ Tips, tricks, and hacks for life and tech... Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:49:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: byron http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-527 byron Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:44:52 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-527 Bard, You might want to take a look at Longview Solutions. Their product is called Kahlix. They're very well known for their allocations and consolidations capabilities and have some pretty major customers using the product. I think there were some oil and gas companies on the list I saw, but couldn't swear to it. Byron Bard,
You might want to take a look at Longview Solutions. Their product is called Kahlix. They’re very well known for their allocations and consolidations capabilities and have some pretty major customers using the product. I think there were some oil and gas companies on the list I saw, but couldn’t swear to it.

Byron

]]> By: Bard Skogstad http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-526 Bard Skogstad Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:54:19 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-526 Thanks for your reply. Posting my question I was mainly addressing functionality, but as you comment we as well have discussions on spending. Due to the investment indications we have received on SAP BPC and Cognos we are now taking a step back and investigating other alternatives as well. These are mainly in two directions; 1) developing the current inhouse Excel model, 2) looking at more industry specific solutions as for example Wood Mackenzie Global model, Rystad Cube, SIAM etc Regarding number 1 this is not a very attractive alternative as it is time consuming and not very well suited for distribution. Excel models have devinitive also some QA issues. Regarding number 2 we have just started looking into it. And do not have the full picture. If any has any suggestions on alternatives to consider or know some of the ones I listed I would really appreciate your input. Regards Bard Thanks for your reply.

Posting my question I was mainly addressing functionality, but as you comment we as well have discussions on spending.

Due to the investment indications we have received on SAP BPC and Cognos we are now taking a step back and investigating other alternatives as well. These are mainly in two directions; 1) developing the current inhouse Excel model, 2) looking at more industry specific solutions as for example Wood Mackenzie Global model, Rystad Cube, SIAM etc

Regarding number 1 this is not a very attractive alternative as it is time consuming and not very well suited for distribution. Excel models have devinitive also some QA issues.

Regarding number 2 we have just started looking into it. And do not have the full picture. If any has any suggestions on alternatives to consider or know some of the ones I listed I would really appreciate your input.

Regards Bard

]]> By: byron http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-525 byron Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:35:09 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-525 Hi Bard, I'll have to leave this question to the other readers as we have elected not to go with BPC since we couldn't make it fit within our spending constraints. I will say that we usually prefer to stick with SAP solutions for integration and support reasons, and will add that BPC is definitely SAP's lead horse for budgeting and planning. That said, we didn't have the funds for it. We are evaluating other options and limping by on our old solution which is an in-house VB6/SQL Server app that is becoming a bear to distribute out to all of the managers that need it. Sorry I can't address your questions directly...Hopefully someone else will pick up the thread for you! Best Regards, Byron Hi Bard,
I’ll have to leave this question to the other readers as we have elected not to go with BPC since we couldn’t make it fit within our spending constraints.

I will say that we usually prefer to stick with SAP solutions for integration and support reasons, and will add that BPC is definitely SAP’s lead horse for budgeting and planning. That said, we didn’t have the funds for it. We are evaluating other options and limping by on our old solution which is an in-house VB6/SQL Server app that is becoming a bear to distribute out to all of the managers that need it.

Sorry I can’t address your questions directly…Hopefully someone else will pick up the thread for you!

Best Regards,
Byron

]]> By: Bard Skogstad http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-524 Bard Skogstad Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:57:32 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-524 This has been an interesting discussion and I would appreciate views on the following as I`m engaged in a discussion concerning pros and cons between SAP BPC and Cognos planning for an oil and gas company in Europe. The question to some extent limits down to which of them is best suited for 1) budget/forcasting, future cashflow projections and balance estimates and 2) witch is best suited for cashflow/balance simmulations based on different scenarios (oilprice, USD, production, investment etc). Any thoughts? Regards BS This has been an interesting discussion and I would appreciate views on the following as I`m engaged in a discussion concerning pros and cons between SAP BPC and Cognos planning for an oil and gas company in Europe.

The question to some extent limits down to which of them is best suited for 1) budget/forcasting, future cashflow projections and balance estimates and 2) witch is best suited for cashflow/balance simmulations based on different scenarios (oilprice, USD, production, investment etc).

Any thoughts?

Regards BS

]]> By: baba_man http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-504 baba_man Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:45:16 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-504 Hello Everyone, I have found your comments about SAP BPC and IP very interesting. I am part of a Oil & Gas company in Europe who are using Cognos Planning 8.1 at the moment for our budgeting and forecasting cycles. We do a 15yr Plan cycle as well as a quaterly forecast cycle. We are looking at migrating to BPC and would appreciate if you guys had any thoughts on how BPC compared to Cognos and even how Cognos compared to IP. From the posts that I have read, BPC does not seem to be as powerful in terms of developing complex models as Cognos or IP. Regards baba_man Hello Everyone,

I have found your comments about SAP BPC and IP very interesting.

I am part of a Oil & Gas company in Europe who are using Cognos Planning 8.1 at the moment for our budgeting and forecasting cycles. We do a 15yr Plan cycle as well as a quaterly forecast cycle.

We are looking at migrating to BPC and would appreciate if you guys had any thoughts on how BPC compared to Cognos and even how Cognos compared to IP.

From the posts that I have read, BPC does not seem to be as powerful in terms of developing complex models as Cognos or IP.

Regards

baba_man

]]> By: byron http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-495 byron Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:52:38 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-495 Alex, Hopefully the wait won't be long. It would be a great bonus if they provide both the Microsoft and Netweaver training in the same package for you (if that's even possible). Good luck! Byron Alex,

Hopefully the wait won’t be long. It would be a great bonus if they provide both the Microsoft and Netweaver training in the same package for you (if that’s even possible).

Good luck!
Byron

]]> By: Alex Brain http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-494 Alex Brain Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:18:25 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-494 I'd like to thank everyone on the feedback! I think now I'm going to wait until SAP gives training on the 7.0 Netweaver release, hopefully within the next 1/2 year or so. I'd rather take the course based on the new release rather than learn 5.1 and then have to jump to 7.0. I’d like to thank everyone on the feedback! I think now I’m going to wait until SAP gives training on the 7.0 Netweaver release, hopefully within the next 1/2 year or so. I’d rather take the course based on the new release rather than learn 5.1 and then have to jump to 7.0.

]]> By: SAP: What’s Next for BPC? | WhyPad http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-489 SAP: What’s Next for BPC? | WhyPad Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:25:17 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-489 [...] a comment on another post, Ivan pointed out an excellent/authoritative blog post on SAP’s SDN by Ryan Leask (SAP) on [...] [...] a comment on another post, Ivan pointed out an excellent/authoritative blog post on SAP’s SDN by Ryan Leask (SAP) on [...]

]]> By: byron http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-488 byron Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:47:38 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-488 Hi Ivan, Thanks for the info. Particularly the tip on Ryan's blog! Here's the link: https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/10100 Cheers! Byron Hi Ivan,

Thanks for the info. Particularly the tip on Ryan’s blog!

Here’s the link:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/10100

Cheers!
Byron

]]> By: Ivan http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-487 Ivan Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:12:47 +0000 http://www.whypad.com/posts/sap-deciding-on-bpc/145/#comment-487 Current training is still with version 5.1 I believe 7.0 is to be released shortly if not already, but only on ramp-up. Keep in mind that there is a microsoft version as well as a netweaver version for v7.0. Keep upto date, by reading Ryan Leask's blog on sdn! Current training is still with version 5.1

I believe 7.0 is to be released shortly if not already, but only on ramp-up. Keep in mind that there is a microsoft version as well as a netweaver version for v7.0.

Keep upto date, by reading Ryan Leask’s blog on sdn!

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